Article: 7673 of alt.support.depression.medication From: old coyote Newsgroups: alt.support.depression.medication,alt.support.social-phobia,alt.support.depression Subject: Re: Cut the Freudian Bullshit!!! Date: 26 Jun 2003 03:33:46 GMT Lines: 67 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: 65.100.75.84 X-Trace: fu-berlin.de 1056598426 29295215 65.100.75.84 (16 [184726]) User-Agent: Xnews/5.04.25 X-No-Archive: yes Path: news.meer.net!sea-read.news.verio.net!dfw-artgen!sjc-peer.news.verio.net!news.verio.net!pln-e!extra.newsguy.com!lotsanews.com!skynet.be!skynet.be!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!65.100.75.84!not-for-mail Xref: archive.mv.meer.net alt.support.depression.medication:7673 alt.support.social-phobia:790 alt.support.depression:61920 frojd2000@yahoo.com (gabatril) wrote in news:eadac0ae.0306251554.46733c72@posting.google.com: > Lets cut trough the crap in today's Psychiatry,I think Depression > should be treated for what it is a sickness off the brain and I think > that in the future it will be more oriented towards getting what's > right for your brain nobody can talk a person out off severe > Depression or anxiety states not even the best shrinks can do that,all > the crazy behavior kicking and screaming crying only to push people > away from you could have been avoided if you could only get the right > medications but since they don`t exist your freaking out like before > only to get the same bad response.When I think off all the money and > energy I have used to combat Depression it almost makes me cry here's > my list off > attempts,acupuncture,homeopathy,hypnosis,herbs,praying,light,30+ AD`s > + Antispshycotics,ECT 2 times,alphastem(current that passes trough > your earlobes and in to your brain,costed about > 400$)aromatherapy,magnetotherapy,reiki-healing,group and still > counting what would be the next,jumpinginfrontoffacar-therapy that is > by the way the only real cure people almost > laughs at me when I still say that medications will cure me after all > this time > but to tell the truth I think they will or they will at least give me > a chance to work my problems out,you never get that chance when your > anxiety levels are shooting trough the roof all the time and 90% off > your thinking is about keeping the anxiety levels down,I have had high > ambitions for my future but today I try to not have to much demands at > all cause it just ends up with disappointments and its also damned > hard to have a long-term plan looking 5 years ahead when you could > need a relief so bad this very moment,so what's happens is like you > live yourlife like you have done and that is isolating,nagging people > for solutions,putting off responsibility,excuse your > very existence,blaming people,giving a shit in society,giving a shit > if you have enough money and the list goes on > > It all ends up with more misery that could have been avoided with the > right > medications it would give you your old self back almost pre-Depressed > I believe so why cant they use as much money and effort as it takes to > get the > medication research in to high gear,developed more MAIO`s without the > food restrictions > medications that mimics ECT,the crf antagonist and shortened the FDA > approval time,so what do we got besides the SSRI`s that sure don't > helps me > ok we got some novel antidepressants like > Effexor,remeron,reboxetin,serzone but the AD`s that is most effective > is the old MAOI`s from the 60`s and what's in the pipelines is still > mostly SSRI`s that just don't works for so many off us > it just are not good enough > I hear your arguments, and I must say that I cannot take much issue with them. What I can tell you is, based on my own personal, private experience and history is that the talk therapy did help me to see life as most of society sees it. It seems that since I have been depressed for most of my life that I developed all sorts of emotionally unhealthy coping mechanisms. Now, that is not to say that those coping mechanisms are necessarily bad, either. They were only construed as being bad because they interfered with my ability to get what I wanted. That is, a happier, more pain free, existence filled, to some extent, with interpersonal relationships on all sorts of levels, which is, I'm coming to understand, what life is all about. -- -=oc=-