Article 13878 of ba.internet: Path: matra.meer.net!goonsquad.spies.com!mirror2.apple.com!times.aux.apple.com!mumbo.apple.com!gallant.apple.com!trib.apple.com!lll-winken.llnl.gov!osi-east2.es.net!cronkite.nersc.gov!qiclab.scn.rain.com!orcalink.com!imci2!newsfeed.internetmci.com!btnet!demon!news.domino.org!neil From: neil@domino.org (Neil J. McRae) Newsgroups: ba.internet Subject: Re: Best.com Date: 7 Dec 1995 22:44:36 GMT Organization: Domino Lines: 72 Message-ID: <4a7qok$2db@genesis.domino.org> References: <49eaj4$b2u@bdt.bdt.com> <49lekr$hc6@shellx.best.com> <49lvb7$21v@bolthole.bolthole.com> <49oqnm$1k5@shellx.best.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: doublesix.domino.org X-NNTP-Posting-Host: genesis.domino.org In article <49oqnm$1k5@shellx.best.com>, Arnaud Girsch wrote: >phil@bolthole.com wrote: >: In article <49lekr$hc6@shellx.best.com>, >: David Paigen wrote: >: >phil@bolthole.com writes: >: > >: >>Aw, baloney. >: >>What ISPs are doing now (at any particular level of service) >: >>has been done before. Unfortunately, the people who actually have the >: >>experience either are not making ISPs, or they are recovering FROM being an >: >>ISP :-) This guy Phil is a "wannabee". > > 11:50am up 19 days, 7:33, 116 users, load average: 1.95, 2.13, 1.57 > >This is on a Sparc 10/50 ... with enough memory/swap (several Mb for each) > >Thissystem is used for email/news/www/any kind of "Internet apps" in a >University ... and users don't complain, and it's not very slow ... I >still can work on it ;-) > neil@office.de:/# uptime 10:33pm up 1 day, 21:49, 71 users, load average: 2.03, 1.94, 1.86 office.demon.net our main admin backbone, a HyperSPARC 20/71, 256M Ram, 500M swap. neil@hinge.dem:/# uptime 10:33pm up 62 days, 7:48, 58 users, load average: 5.54, 6.64, 6.95 A SunSPARCserver 10/51, 128M ram 300M swap. One of our London Pops. neil@a.demon.c:/# uptime 10:34pm up 83 days, 8:30, 81 users, load average: 10.86, 10.84, 10.98 A SunSPARCserver 20/61, 128M ram 300M swap. One of our national pops. neil@news.demon.co.uk:/# uptime 10:36pm up 1 day(s), 8:46, 2 users, load average: 5.31, 4.61, 4.96 disgorge.news.demon.net, a SunSPARCServer 20/614, one of our main customer newsfeeds. Serving over 500 nnrpds, 512M ram, around a gig of swap, 3 SCSI buses, 3 10M switched ethernet ports. neil@disperse.mail.demon.net# uptime 10:37pm up 5:15, 3 users, load average: 22.66, 22.02, 20.87 disperse.mail.demon.net, A SunSPARCServer 20/61, 256M, 300M swap, a mail server. neil@first.www.demon.net:/# uptime 10:42pm up 3 day(s), 22:19, 4 users, load average: 16.97, 15.10, 13.67 A HyperSPARCServer 20/614. 512M ram and enough swap to store the whole of the world in ;-) Now are we seeing something here people? Note how these machines have many different load averages, to many different uses. The end result LOAD AVERAGE MEANS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING as a TRUE indication of how busy a machine is. I/O, CPU load etc etc must be taken into account. Regards, Neil. -- -- neil@domino.org neil@demon.net Domino: In the glow of the night. -- -- Free your computer and your mind --