Article: 51953 of ba.internet
From: Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@comix.santa-cruz.ca.us>
Newsgroups: ba.internet
Subject: Re: Looking for Bay area ISP with good usenet servers
Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 23:43:51 -0700
Organization: Committee To Maintain an Independent Xenix
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On 27 Oct 1999 20:07:32 -0700, paigen@forte.heathen.com (David Paigen)
wrote:

>Yeah, but for $6.25/month you are not going to find an ISP that has
>good news service.  News isn't like the old days, when all you had
>to do was ask for a feed.  Sigh.

Oh, it's still possible to get free peering for a limited newsfeed.
However, since a full feed is currently 70 GigaBloats/day and rising,
nobody is going to supply a free full newsfeed.

Public news resources for the great unwashed masses:
	http://www.jammed.com/~newzbot/

Where to get peering:
	http://www.usenet-se.net/peering/

How much data you're gonna have to shovel for a full feed:
	http://newsfeed-east.remarq.com/feed-size/

Newsfeed via satellite:
	http://www.isp-sat.com

Where the news sysadmins hang out:
	news:news.software.nntp

Where the usenet news complainers hang out:
	news:alt.binaries.news-server-comparison



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Article: 51948 of ba.internet
From: For_Email@ddress.see_be.low (Philip J. Koenig)
Newsgroups: ba.internet
Subject: Re: Looking for Bay area ISP with good usenet servers
Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 19:44:15 -0700
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In article <9iMXOCZvfHxOIHIvGA0wVlltl8qU@4ax.com>, jeffl@comix.santa-cruz.ca.us 
(Jeff Liebermann) writes...
> On Wed, 27 Oct 1999 00:15:10 -0700, "Steven Scharf" <skrb@jps.net> wrote:
> 
> >"Our news server is provided free as a bonus to our customers.  For this
> >reason we cannot provide any technical support for it's usage, beyond that
> >of ensuring your settings are correct. "
> 
> Good, fast, cheap.  Pick two.
> 
> Shopping for a Usenet News Provider
> 	http://www.exit109.com/~jeremy/news/providers/
> 
> Comparison of Usenet News providers
> 	http://members.tripod.com/~newscompare/chart.html



Very handy resources.



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