Article 63296 of comp.sys.sun.admin: Path: matra.meer.net!goonsquad.spies.com!genmagic!sgigate.sgi.com!spool.mu.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!newsjunkie.ans.net!butch!cliffy.lfwc.lockheed.com!news From: Shash Chatterjee Newsgroups: comp.unix.solaris,comp.sys.sun.admin Subject: Re: Windows Managers (FVWM, OLVWM, TWM,...) Date: 24 Aug 1995 20:41:30 GMT Organization: Lockheed Martin Tactical Aircraft Systems Lines: 124 Distribution: inet Message-ID: <41io5q$iom@cliffy.lfwc.lockheed.com> References: <41h1tf$ltf@interport.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: cliffy.lfwc.lockheed.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="-------------------------------11794184041609" X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.1N (X11; I; SunOS 5.4 sun4m) To: jupiter@interport.com X-URL: file:/usr3/users/chatterj/doc/wm.comparisons Xref: matra.meer.net comp.unix.solaris:53913 comp.sys.sun.admin:63296 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ---------------------------------11794184041609 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii fvwm is not only a full-featured window-manager it is also fast and small (not to mention it is written by a very capable fellow-Lockheed-employee ;-) ). Check out the comparision file I have attached. (I got that from the FVWM-1.23 home page: http://xenon.chem.uidaho.edu/~fvwm/ jupiter@interport.net (SeaWolf) wrote: > >hi all.. > > I've been using FVWM for about a year and I find it extremely >powerful and user-friendly... This WM makes life much easier and happier.. >[although configuring .fvwmrc drove me half-insane.. (wasted 1-full >week)].. All of my Unix-illiterate, Unix-phobic friends suddendly >turned into Unix-lovers.. ( apparently amazed by GoodStuff, iconManager and >Pager ) > I'm very sure that everyone in my school will benefit from this, but my >school System Admin. refuses to install'em in the school system, >reasoning that it uses lot more system resources than TWM or OLWM.. >Is it true??.. Anyone have any fact or stat on this?? Is it not worth >sacrificing that amount of system resources for the ease-of-use and >friendliness?? Most of my school's workstations have 8MRAM (Sun >Xclassic with kewl Color Monitor and even cooler optical mouse) and the >server has about 128meg RAM( model:??.. [forgot =(]) > >thanks in advance.. > > > ~jupiter@interport.com -- +-----------------------------------------------------------------+ + ChatterjeeS@lfwc.lockheed.com + + Sasvata Chatterjee | Electronic Systems Design & Integration + + "SHASH-WATA" | Lockheed Martin Tactical Aircraft Systems+ + (817) 763-1495 | Lockheed Boulevard, MZ2273 + + (817) 763-1495 (FAX) | Fort Worth, TX 76108 + +-----------------------------------------------------------------+ ---------------------------------11794184041609 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain *************************************************************** NOTE!!!!!! As soon as I iconify something (with a color icon) the size field jumps from 92 to244 KBytes. It remains fairly constant after the first iconification. (On Sun-4) With mono icons, size goes from 88->100 kbytes. With no icon pictures, size is unchanged. These number all determined using the same executable, just changing icon definitions. Interpretation: If you're memory-concious, don't use color icons! *************************************************************** Notes on the size of various compilations of fvwm and other window managers: Fvwm is still 1/3 the size of twm, in terms of Data+Stack size, but is similar in text size. Same is true of other popular window managers. On Linux: from ps -aux (no swap space used, so RSS seems to be valid): SIZE RSS 136 452 fvwm.no_icons.no_saveunders 148 528 fvwm.shape 148 520 fvwm.shape.modules 152 544 fvwm.shape.color.modules 152 544 fvwm.loaded 136 528 fvwm.non_virtual 418 692 twm program sizes: text data bss dec hex 73728 4096 0 77824 13000 fvwm.loaded 61440 4096 0 65536 10000 fvwm.no_icons.no_saveunders 61440 4096 0 65536 10000 fvwm.non_virtual 69632 4096 0 73728 12000 fvwm.shape 69632 4096 0 73728 12000 fvwm.shape.modules 69632 4096 0 73728 12000 fvwm.shape.modules.color On Sun-4: from ps -aux (performed immediately after program initialization. RSS field seems to be reasonably repeatable). SIZE RSS 92 716 fvwm.shape.color.modules 92 688 fvwm.shape.modules 92 716 fvwm.loaded 92 664 fvwm.no_icons.no_saveunders 88 688 fvwm.shape 324 960 olwm 456 1064 twm 464 1140 tvtwm 460 1632 mwm size *wm*: text data bss dec hex 122880 8192 0 131072 20000 fvwm.loaded 90112 8192 0 98304 18000 fvwm.no_icons.no_saveunders 98304 8192 0 106496 1a000 fvwm.shape 122880 8192 0 131072 20000 fvwm.shape.color.modules 98304 8192 0 106496 1a000 fvwm.shape.modules 131072 24576 14656 170304 29940 twm 204800 24576 8400 237776 3a0d0 tvtwm 1679360 204800 11040 1895200 1ceb20 mwm 188416 40960 0 229376 38000 olwm ---------------------------------11794184041609--